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'IT: Chapter Two' Director Compares Donald Trump to Pennywise, Says He 'Does Exactly What the Clown Does'
03 September 2019
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Director Andy Muschietti is determined to make sure that IT: Chapter Two, the most recent adaptation of Stephen King's seminal novel IT, isn't just a regular horror movie. He told AFP that he's making sure the film is “connected to the times that we live in.”
In doing so, he connected the primary antagonist, the terrifying Pennywise the Clown, to President Donald Trump and certain other world leaders. The comparison doesn't come through looks or words, but through tactics.
<p>Muschietti elaborated:</p><blockquote>"[Trump] does exactly what the clown does, you know? The clown is trying to divide the ‘Losers’ all the time, to turn them against them(selves) and make them weaker. That’s how he conquers, he tries to conquer them and destroy them."</blockquote><p>The "Losers" club are the band of outcast kids (and, in <em>Chapter Two</em>, adults) terrorized by Pennywise.</p><p>A majority of Americans agree that Trump is by no means a unifying figure. A <a href="https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=3638">Quinnipiac poll</a> from last week found that 62 percent of voters believed the President was "doing more to divide the country" than unite it.</p><p>Incidentally, Jay Ryan, who portrays one of the protagonists in the upcoming film, invoked the President during an interview promoting <em>IT: Chapter Two</em>. Noting that the force behind Pennywise, known only as It, takes the form of what its victims fear most, the interviewer asked Ryan what form It would take for him. "Donald Trump," Ryan replied to laughter.</p><p><div data-conversation-spotlight=""></div></p><p></p><div id="791c9" class="rm-shortcode" data-rm-shortcode-id="AG27AH1575238296"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet twitter-custom-tweet" data-twitter-tweet-id="1165926243189104641" data-partner="rebelmouse"><div style="margin:1em 0">I LOVE RHEM SKSJSKSK https://t.co/UItNZZuVON</div> — annie loves nic 🎈 (@annie loves nic 🎈)<a href="https://twitter.com/nicsgrazer/statuses/1165926243189104641">1566813452.0</a></blockquote></div><p></p><p>Others have drawn comparisons to Trump and Pennywise as well, like Democratic California Governor Gavin Newsom and legendary entertainer Bette Midler.</p><p></p><div id="1381b" class="rm-shortcode" data-rm-shortcode-id="0T53A01575238297"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet twitter-custom-tweet" data-twitter-tweet-id="1043004055650353160" data-partner="rebelmouse"><div style="margin:1em 0">lol, hi @realDonaldTrump. 🤡
Interesting description coming from the guy who is literally locking up kids like Pen… https://t.co/nxZo22sRyD</div> — Gavin Newsom (@Gavin Newsom)<a href="https://twitter.com/GavinNewsom/statuses/1043004055650353160">1537506519.0</a></blockquote></div><p></p><p></p><div id="b80fa" class="rm-shortcode" data-rm-shortcode-id="TBSEPN1575238297"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet twitter-custom-tweet" data-twitter-tweet-id="1155520896762667008" data-partner="rebelmouse"><div style="margin:1em 0">In response to Dems threats to begin impeachment proceedings, Trump says, “These people are clowns.” That’s rich co… https://t.co/ALAwjwqinL</div> — Bette Midler (@Bette Midler)<a href="https://twitter.com/BetteMidler/statuses/1155520896762667008">1564332624.0</a></blockquote></div><p></p><p></p><div id="51ac5" class="rm-shortcode" data-rm-shortcode-id="6HERRH1575238297"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet twitter-custom-tweet" data-twitter-tweet-id="1168625965049794565" data-partner="rebelmouse"><div style="margin:1em 0">Trump’s governance is reminiscent of a clown car. It would be funny if all the clowns didn’t behave like Pennywis… https://t.co/ljbrKi2zqj</div> — Deann (@Deann)<a href="https://twitter.com/DesidResists/statuses/1168625965049794565">1567457116.0</a></blockquote></div><p></p><p></p><div id="6dd8e" class="rm-shortcode" data-rm-shortcode-id="41P4FC1575238297"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet twitter-custom-tweet" data-twitter-tweet-id="1168205377353043969" data-partner="rebelmouse"><div style="margin:1em 0">A clown who preys on children?! You talking about Trump or friggin Pennywise the It Clown?</div> — Cullen Crawford (@Cullen Crawford)<a href="https://twitter.com/HelloCullen/statuses/1168205377353043969">1567356840.0</a></blockquote></div><p></p><p></p><div id="aa40a" class="rm-shortcode" data-rm-shortcode-id="Y9WNVK1575238297"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet twitter-custom-tweet" data-twitter-tweet-id="1168847004358914049" data-partner="rebelmouse"><div style="margin:1em 0">There is a Clown that is trying to make us live in a culture of fear, trying to divide us, control us, conquer us a… https://t.co/Kb4ggX5QBS</div> — Earnest L. Duckery (@Earnest L. Duckery)<a href="https://twitter.com/elduckery/statuses/1168847004358914049">1567509816.0</a></blockquote></div><p></p><p></p><div id="3f555" class="rm-shortcode" data-rm-shortcode-id="8MISY71575238297"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet twitter-custom-tweet" data-twitter-tweet-id="1167077934533926912" data-partner="rebelmouse"><div style="margin:1em 0">Now that our immigration policy includes deporting kids with cancer, I fear that this cartoon (originally published… https://t.co/eaqL7Q1reZ</div> — Clay Bennett (@Clay Bennett)<a href="https://twitter.com/BennettCartoons/statuses/1167077934533926912">1567088037.0</a></blockquote></div><p></p><p>At least Pennywise's carnage is confined to a screen and our imaginations.</p><p><em>IT: Chapter Two </em>hits theaters Friday. You can watch Chapter One <a href="https://amzn.to/2PBIgOz">here</a> and purchase the original Stephen King novel <a href="https://amzn.to/2Lglyas">here</a>.</p><p>--------</p><p><strong>Listen to the first episode of George Takei's podcast, 'Oh Myyy Pod!',</strong> where we explore the racially charged videos that have taken the internet by storm.</p><p>Be sure to subscribe <a href="https://anchor.fm/ohmyyypod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">here</a> and never miss an episode.</p><p></p>
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