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Rudy Giuliani Just Said He Knows Donald Trump Never Told Michael Cohen to Lie to Congress Because He's 'Been Through All the Tapes' and the Reporter's Response Is All of Us

WASHINGTON, DC - MAY 05: Latest appointee to President Donald Trump's legal team and former Mayor of New York City Rudy Giuliani attends the Conference on Iran on May 5, 2018 in Washington, DC. Over one thousand delegates from representing Iranian communities from forty states attends the Iran Freedom Convention for Human Rights and Democracy. (Photo by Tasos Katopodis/Getty Images)

Rudy Giuliani, President Donald Trump's lawyer, made a startling claim to a New Yorker reporter on Monday regarding Trump's alleged conversations with his former fixer Michael Cohen.

Isaac Chotiner called Giuliani for comment on a disputed BuzzFeed report alleging that Trump instructed Cohen to lie to Congress about the secret Trump Tower Moscow deal Trump was pursuing during the 2016 election.

"Where are we now with Trump and Cohen and the BuzzFeed story, and your response to it?" Chotiner asked Giuliani.

"There are no tapes, there are no texts, there is no corroboration that the President told him to lie," Giuliani replied. "That’s why the special counsel said that the story was inaccurate."

Giuliani quickly contradicted himself, saying he "knew the BuzzFeed story was false." Chotimer asked Giuliani how he was so certain.

That's when it got weird.

Giuliani: "Because I have been through all the tapes. I have been through all the texts, I have been through all the e-mails, and I knew none existed."

Chotiner: "Wait, what tapes have you gone through?"

Giuliani immediately backtracked, saying "I shouldn’t have said tapes. They alleged there were texts and e-mails that corroborated that Cohen was saying the President told him to lie. There were no texts, there were no e-mails, and the President never told him to lie."

Chotiner: "So, there were no tapes you listened to, though?"

Giuliani: "No tapes. Well, I have listened to tapes, but none of them concern this."

Considering Cohen taped many of his conversations with Trump, Giuliani's remarks are raising lots of eyebrows.

Lordy, there may be tapes of Trump directing Cohen to commit perjury.


Giuliani left Twitter dumbfounded.

This is the best lawyer that Trump, a billionaire, can afford?

Oh Rudy. Why do you do this to yourself?