As States Slam Their Doors To Syrian Migrants, A Famous Child of One Resurfaces

[Digest: The Independent; Macworld; The Guardian]

More than half of the states’ governors in the U.S. have declared that they will not accept any Syrian refugees, citing security fears after the recent Paris attacks. While the governors’ legal authority actually to do so remains highly dubious, the refugee crisis quickly has become ground zero for a prolonged and pitched cultural battle, with opponents warning that the U.S. would be foolish to admit large numbers of Syrians as Europe has. Those sympathetic to the refugees’ plight struck back yesterday, as Twitter users reminded the world that Steve Jobs, the creator of the Mac and the iPhone who passed away in 2011, was the son of a Syrian migrant.

As reported in The Independent, at the start of the Syrian refugee crisis, Job’s background was cited broadly within the tech community, but after recent statements by U.S. politicians, the memes and tweets began recirculating.

According to MacWorld, when the refugee crisis began, Twitter users had pointed out how Syrian migrants have aided culture, business and technology in the West, most notably the biological father of Jobs, Abdul Fattah Jandali, who is still living in Nevada. Jandali was a political migrant born in 1931 to a well-off family in Homs, Syria, a city facing some of the worst fighting in Syria’s present civil war. Jandali moved to the US to study in the 1950s.

Similar to the refugees today, Jandali left the Middle East due to political instability and conflict. At university he was an activist for Arab nationalism, and he demonstrated for the independence of Algeria, winding up in prison for three days. Jandali removed himself

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  • dissidentpatriot

    The long established vetting process of immigrants from Syria takes 18-24 months. Why? Because the country is home to countless numbers of terrorists and their sympathizers. So WTF do people think we can suddenly ‘fast track’ these people with any level of safety and assurance just because they’re now labeled ‘refugees’ …?

    • chedd

      Why are you so afraid? It must be horrible to go through life afraid of everything.

      • dissidentpatriot

        Who said anyone was afraid? These are simple facts, but feel free to cast emotion into the situation if it makes you feel better.

        • chedd

          I said you were afraid, because you are. “Oh, no, the mean refugee children and women fleeing from ISIS are going to get us!” Go hide in your basement and let the rest of us get about our lives.

          • billpo

            Shout this line loudly when you and your loved ones are attacked by terrorist infiltrators, bearing automatic weapons and explosives, at your favorite movie theater, restaurant, or sporting event. “Oh no, Mr Fear Monger and Scaredy Cat, that could never happen”, you say? Keep moving your lips. I’ll bring the popcorn.

          • Aaron Lindsay

            From news report within the last two years it appears more likely we should fear white people.

            Aaaarrrrrggghhhh

            Sorry, I just remembered I’m white and scared the hell out of myself.

          • bigal0228

            Do you ,let fear determine every decision you make in your life? If so, you should really fear your neighbors or your family members because the likelyhood of one of them killing you, either intentionally or by accident, is FAR greater. But carry on. Fear is your copilot.

          • billpo

            I let prudence, caution, reality, wisdom, intelligence, compassion, and an eye for current events rule my decisions. You’re only operating on one of those traits right now… and it’s not enough, by far.

          • bigal0228

            Not based upon anything you’ve posted thus far.

          • chedd

            Do you even hear yourself? “Terrorist Infiltrators!!” Please. The only people bearing automatic weapons who have shot up movie theaters have been crazy paranoid right wingers like you. Go look up projection – from the safety of your own bunker, of course.

          • billpo

            The actions of mentally-disturbed individuals takes nothing away from the importance of my statements. Red Herring, as is usual with these discussions on the net. *SMH*

          • Ara Jordan

            That already happened in my state. He was an American citizen, born and raised, had bought his guns legally having passed the background check, and had booby trapped his apartment with explosives. He killed 12 people in a movie theater perfectly well without any dogmatic motive.

            I see no reason to assume that refugees seeking asylum have a higher percentage of shitty individuals than what we’ve already got here. So I’m rather proud that my governor is one of only 12 to outright welcome refugees to our state.

          • Caring&Cautious

            That should actually give you more reason to doubt the screening process.

          • Ara Jordan

            It does, in its way. I’m of the opinion that better psychological and behavioral screening are needed for a lot of things, but I don’t think the federal government can manage that. So I work to get psychology courses made mandatory for my local police departments, lobby for greater public access to mental health services in my state, and take part in raising awareness and educating the general public on the signs and symptoms of potentially dangerous behaviors.

            But the final message is that I’m still fine with my state accepting refugees. We’ve had no problem with the thousands of refugees from Burma, Somalia, and Iraq that we accepted last year, so I see no reason to worry about accepting Syrians.

          • janipurr

            In this country, those terrorists in the movie theaters, restaurants, and sporting events are statistically far more likely to be white, male Christian extremists. Historically, more Americans have been killed by Christian terrorists that were American born citizens that by immigrants or any other religious group. You must be terrified to leave your house.

          • Patricia Green

            Movie theater or school? Those places are the ones favored by white Christian American males. Shall we deport all of them?

          • dissidentpatriot

            This policy has been in place for years and with good reason backed by a considerable amount of statistical analysis of the reality of the region – not fear. For anyone that thinks Syria is a nice and friendly place full of freedom loving people wanting a hug from an American, please, take a trip over there and let us know how it goes.

        • Phil DaPill

          Terrorism is based on fear. If there was no fear then there would be no terrorist. See that’s how synonyms work.

        • janipurr

          I have yet to see you present any support for your “facts”.

      • Rose Tyler

        Are you going to be opening your home to them? Members of ISIS are posing as refugees, I am sorry for the innocent but my children and my family are more important. How about you get your head out of your behind.

        • bigal0228

          Silly argument. NO one is going to be “opening their home” to any refugee, never have. It’s not how the process works. But don’t let little facts like that interrupt your diatribes. The vast majority of the refugees are children under the age of 5 and women. 2% are of military aged men. “Your family” has a far greater chance of being injured or killed by other Americans or your own family members than by someone screaming at your door “Allah Akubar”. So keep your head up your ass and have a great day!

          • billpo

            Cite legitimate, non-left (or right)-leaning publication/source that shows “2% are of military aged men”. *SMH*

          • bigal0228

            It was provided by President Obama in his address to the nation. But you don’t listen to facts, or real news, do you?

          • Ken

            Oh so he said it so it must be true.

          • billpo

            *Still waiting for legitimate source*

            POTUS is not a source, fella, he relays info from his sources. While you’re at it, show me where he said that, just for S&G.

          • Ken

            More like his “Handlers”

          • Patricia Green

            Perhaps if they are militaru-age men, might they be coming here to avoid fighting for ISIS. Have you ever met a former child soldier who has escaped from his captors and seen the pain in his eyes? I have. Have you ever cared for a 5 year old refugee and had to examine her for evidence of rape? I have. Have you ever cared for a refugee woman who was brutalized and shot in front of her young children? I have. And all you so-called Christians, would you have no problem sending them back to where they came from, as Chris Christie would? I could not. And now we in the U.S. have something else to be proud of – bombing a Doctors Without Borders hospital, killing doctors and patients…

          • Rose Tyler

            Tell that to the people of France or anyone else who has been directly effected by terrorism. You have a wonderful day looking through your rose colored glasses, I hope no one you love ever has to suffer because people like you refuse to be realistic.

          • Brewerofbeers

            Those were not Syrian refugees, derp.

          • bigal0228

            No need to tell it to anyone. We’re discussing refugees coming to America, and YOU were the one who brought up “coming into your home”. But your response is typical of the idiocy and nonsense ignorant fools tend to spout when confronted with their own stupidity. It’s a visious cycle, you just get more idiotic with each retort.

          • Aaron Macke

            We don’t need to tell that to the people of France, they are welcoming 30,000 refugees into their borders even after the attacks on their soil. They already know what is right, and what is allowing fear to override your compassion, morality, and humanity.

        • chedd

          “Members of ISIS are posing as refugees.”
          So, in addition to wetting your pants over imagined terrorists, you are also inventing terrorist populations where none exist; of the 1854 Syrian refugees to enter the US since 2011, ZERO have engaged in anything approaching terrorism. At least you are consistent in your paranoid fabulism.

          • Rose Tyler

            Sigh, I will not waste anymore energy on this discussion. Turkey just made 8 arrests this morning, it is happening, it will continue to happen one faker is one too many. Just so you don’t worry chedd, I’m far from paranoid and I don’t let what’s happening in the world change how I conduct my daily business. I guess I could say at least you are consistent in your blind stupidity but I don’t want to be rude.

          • chedd

            Repeat: 1854 Syrian refugees; ZERO terrorists. A much better ratio than your average christian evangelical church.
            I accept your surrender.

          • billpo

            Your ability to know what is in the hearts and minds of those “1854”… what any of them might be planning… is truly amazing. I see a semi-fulfilling position in a sideshow carnival in your future!

          • Patricia Green

            Meanwhile, terrorists have a new friend in the NRA, which has no problem selling weapons to terrorists, especially in Texas, because they still don’t believe in background checks.

        • Lillith272

          And members of ISIS are French, Belgian, British, German citizens……likely US citizens, too (remember all the stories about US citizens flocking to Syria to train for ISIS?) They’ll eventually come back home and legally, too. So there really is no point in banning refugees.
          Plus, European intelligence now suggests that that refugee passport found at the scene was a ruse and shows signs of being fake, so they now think it was used to deliberately turn the West against the refugees.

          • Ken

            What about the form with the fingerprints on showing at least one of them went through Greece, or are you suggesting the fingerprints were fake too?

          • Lillith272

            I’m just stating what I’ve seen European media report. Some of the officials were questioning the authenticity of the passport and said there’s a strong change it was fake and deliberately used to turn the world against Syrian refugees. They currently cannot say for sure if the person who blasted himself is actually the person in the passport. Some media reports that the biographical data matches a Syrian soldier who died months ago. According to some media, US intelligence officials have said they also found two fake Turkish passports. So just because you find a refugee passport, doesn’t mean it’s real. And even if it was the case that someone used the refugee process to commit this act of terror, it shouldn’t deter us from helping refugees. If members of ISIS pose as US Citizens, do we punish US citizens for that?

        • janipurr

          “Members of ISIS are posing as refugees”

          Have any legitimate evidence of that? Please cite something that is not speculative opinion, as in a legitimate, and recent, example.

          • Patricia Green

            It is easier for terrorists to come here as students or professionals. The process for refugees and asylum seekers takes years.

    • Jason

      Making things harder for groups of people based on their appearance or where they come from, is the basis of discrimination.

      If you want to play the same game as the terrorist are, please say so and not hide behind “National Security”.

      • dissidentpatriot

        The terrorists are playing people like you. It’s funny how the liberal set seem to rally behind Muslims, a faith that treats women as property, openly kills gays, believes in slave ownership, female genital mutilation, child brides, and most importantly, the directive to kill or convert all non-Muslims. But yeah, go ahead and blindly support them.

        • Fred Strange

          8 million Muslims already live in the US, and have done so for years. Few if any living here do any of the things you describe. And guess what, we have laws that deal with 1 or 2 that do. I hope you are just as quick to condemn the Christians in this country who advocate the SAME THING. In fact for every Muslim attacker you can name who did violence in this country, I can name 10 Christians who did the same.

          • dissidentpatriot

            Please, enlighten me – when was the last time a Christian engaged in female genital mutilation or, tossed a gay person off a building or stoned a woman to death for being raped?

          • Ara Jordan

            Christianity-driven politics are responsible for the attempt to make homosexuality in Uganda punishable by death under law, and there are many cases of religiously-motivated murders of gay and trans people. Female genital mutilation occurs in many non-Islamic, sometimes Christian, communities in Africa, and it is condemned by law in several Islamic states. Male genital mutilation is practiced by millions of Christians in the U.S. today. As for rape victims dying, Christians may not throw stones, but they have denied raped children abortions, thus causing the girls to die in childbirth. In 2012, a woman in Ireland was denied a medical abortion to remove a dead child from her womb because, “this is a Catholic country,” and the infection from the rotting baby in her belly killed her.

            Christians murder. Christians bomb. Christians teach hatred. It isn’t Christianity’s fault when they do. Shitty people are shitty people, regardless of their religion. Some countries like Saudi Arabia, Iran, and Pakistan have high concentrations of shitty people who are Muslim. Some countries like Turkey and Indonesia have high concentrations of non-shitty people who are Muslim (Turkey has actually elected more female representatives to positions of power than the U.S. has).

            It may or may not be coincidence that the shittier Muslim countries read heavily into Muhammad’s non-Quranic texts, which is where a lot of that really harsh stuff comes from, and the non-shitty Muslim countries mostly just stick to the Quran, which is vague, like the Bible.

          • Brewerofbeers

            “Christian engaged in female genital mutilation”

            Yesterday. And likely today as well. It is a common practice among Christians in Africa.

          • Alicia Kimberly Hauskins

            “Christian engaged in female genital mutilation”

            …The practice is actually more common among Christians than Muslims in a lot of Africa. It is a cultural practice, not a religious one.

          • Amy Wharton

            It’s a means of controlling women and has nothing to do with a religion or particular ideology other than believing that men are superior to women and that women are somehow imperfectly made. Here is a document, p. 73, citing Christians who mutilate women. One quote from the note: “In Ethiopia, the category for ‘Other Christians’ includes ‘Orthodox’, which
            represents the majority of the population (49 per cent of surveyed women and men); FGM/C [Female Genital Mutilation/Circumcision] prevalence among Orthodox girls and women alone is 68 per cent.”

          • Martin Pritchard

            …or burned a guy for being black?

          • John

            I seem to recall not too long ago stories of good X-ian folk in Colorado dragging a homosexual or person of color or two behind a pickup until they were dead… Much more humane…

          • Melanie Black Hubacz

            Ever hear of Matthew Shepard? He was murdered for being Gay by a bunch of Hillbillies who likely would identify themselves as Christian.

          • Shoneah Tokala

            Umm… Dude, the Christian Religion has spent most of the past 2000+ years Murdering people for not converting to Christianity (e.g. the decimation of a pagan England, and the civil wars in the middle east, not the recent ones, although george bush did claim Jesus told him to, I mean ‘the holy crusade’ where the Roman Catholic church ordered the deaths of ALL Islamic men, women and children), also the bible constantly refers to women as “Lesser Objects”, oh and lets not forget good ol’ Westboro Baptist Church, whom attack women, homosexuals and pro-choicers. At the end of the day if you’re gonna spout bullshit about only Muslims being evil then go and read an actual fucking history book instead of the “hate propaganda” they gave you with the free cookies in sunday school!

          • Shoneah Tokala

            @fredstrange:disqus Damn Straight, I couldn’t have said it better myself

        • chedd

          Answer the previous question: where have you seen any indication that anyone would be “fast tracked”?
          And just so you know, liberals don’t rally behind Muslims; rather, we oppose bed-wetting fear mongers like you who would trade the civil liberties of any population so you can feel less afraid.

          • dissidentpatriot

            I’ve actually tried to. Twice. The site puts the comments into ‘moderation’ and never show up. Google ‘ıSyria refugee crisis: U.S. opens centres to speed vetting’ and you should get an informative article from CNBC. This was put into action in advance of the Paris attacks and it was a bad idea then just as it is now.

        • Katie Maynard

          Pick up the Bible… it actually encourages slavery, woman as property, killing of gays, brides were children during that period, and it does give us a directive to kill others that do not agree with the religion – actually to wipe them from the earth so no record exists… want the bible references I’ll look them up again – glad to help someone better understand religion

        • chedd

          1. treats women as property; 2. hates gays; 3. believes in slave
          wages; 4. controls female reproduction; 5. most
          importantly, convert all non-believers.
          Sounds like most evangelical Christians. Sounds exactly like the Duggars.

        • Patricia Green

          Unlike the 3 legislators who recently said there should be a law to execute gays or the candidates who said slavery wasn’t all that bad, right?

          • dissidentpatriot

            They’re clearly ridiculous people, but the difference being that they haven’t actually done any of those things.

      • Ross Sizemore

        Do tell who you would first think of as a trouble maker in an area with a predominant race or culture? Simple odds alone make it logical to do it. But hey lets all be PC and completely ignore the fact that the world is trying to appease ISIS much like they thought would work with hitler.

      • Crispin Gatieza

        Of course we are going to discriminate, you nimb wit. Everyone who wants to come here for whatever reason is not equal. Even the Christian Eurotrash has to go through the same vetting process.

    • suzanneshaps

      I have not seen any reporting that the vetting process would be shortened or otherwise changed. Can you point out where you’ve seen that?

    • Brewerofbeers

      The process is not being fast-tracked.

    • Gerald Fishel

      It takes 18 to 24 months because of the amount of work they have to do to vet them and the limited manpower for vetting them, not because they need to sit somewhere for 18 to 24 months in order to know they are not a security threat.

      They’re not changing the process, they’re opening more screening centers closer to Syria, and adding more manpower, so they can process them quicker.

  • Derek K. Wilson

    Why is there no timeline for this man’s entry into the US? When did he migrate here? Is he a naturalized citizen? How long did it take him to migrate? Why should all the current “refugees” be treated different?

    • Exophrine

      Why put refugees in quotations? Are they not REAL refugees? What are your standards for deciding who qualifies?

      • Lillith272

        As the Washington Post pointed out yesterday, the Jews were treated quite similarly at the beginning of Hitler’s reign. In 1939, 60% of Americans said they do not want to let Jewish refugees into the US, and most of the Western countries looked at them with skepticism.

        • billpo

          Haven’t yet read any reports of Jewish terrorists committing attacks and atrocities in the lead up to WWII. Nor did any of their Jewish organizations come out and SAY they were going to send their operatives to the States to commit attacks under the guise of refugees. Correct me if I’m wrong. ANOTHER red herring!

          • Brewerofbeers

            You keep using that word, but I do not think it means what you think it means. You poor thing. A false analogy would be a faulty generalization, not a red herring. Of course, you have not demonstrated that the analogy is false, either. You should not use words that you do not understand in an ill fated attempt to seem more intelligent. It does not work.

          • billpo

            Ad Hominem attack… a red herring!

          • Lillith272

            I think you’re confusing several things here. The refugees are fleeing the same people that are threatening us.

            According to your logic, the Jewish equivalent would be:
            German Nazis persecute German Jews, German Jews flee to America, America says, no Germans(!) allowed because you’re all Nazis!

    • Aaron Lindsay

      Who’s entry are you referring to? Steve Jobs is the SON of a Syrian immigrant. Steve was born in San Francisco.

      • billpo

        All refugees are immigrants. Not all immigrants are refugees. Jobs dad came here from Syria to attend college… WELL before the kind of threats we face today were existent. Jobs was given up for adoption before his first birthday. etc, etc. SO WHAT? Stop with the red herrings.

    • helmutderhaas

      Aren’t almost all all of you Americans descended from migrants ?
      Didn’t your forefathers turn up and murder then steal the land from the local population ?

      Then you paid them a bunch of money to say sorry.

    • Lillith272

      Immigrating into the US in the 50s was very different from what it is today, so what relevance does his biological father’s immigration timeline have?

      • billpo

        None whatsoever, Lillith272.

      • Derek K. Wilson

        Your question made my point. Thank you!

  • Thomas Knapp

    ANY immigrant is a potential security threat. There’s no problem with having a period where refugees are kept under close watch. Hell, there’s no inherent problem with watching them until they officially become a U.S. Citizen.

    The problem occurs with the assumption that, “This person is from [X], therefore they MUST be a security risk.”

    There also IS a difference between standard immigration and refugees of political duress. You CAN “open your borders” to the latter AND restrict their access to the country until individuals demonstrate they aren’t here in poor faith.

    • Lillith272

      One of the Boston bombers was a US Citizen. It’s just a simple step after you’re officially a legal immigrant and is certainly not a security measure. I just wanted to point that out. You’ll likely find that a lot of the kids flocking towards ISIS in Europe were often born in Europe and are already second generation immigrants. So it really makes no difference what legal status they have.

      • TrophySystem

        On that note, the Oklahoma City bombing were carried out by U.S. Citizens as native and christian as they come, one military veteran among them too. Point is, don’t judge like you are some lame 2-bit computer code like [accepting input, check parameters: is christian, is not muslim, is syrian origin, is white-skinned; proceed]. You are human, you are better than that.

        • Except, Islam is explicit in its doctrine of murdering Kafirs. Every Islamic terrorist organization cites scripture directly as their motivation for killing innocent people. You are right, we are humans, not computers and therefore our behavior is non-deterministic — it is impossible to predict which Muslim will suddenly become ‘faithful’ and start killing innocent people, and going by available data, the likelihood of that happening amongst Muslims is several orders of magnitude higher than the rest of the faiths put together.

          • Shoneah Tokala

            Little known fact. The killing of unbelievers isn’t cited in the Qu’ran nor is it actual religious doctrine (The Qu’ran as it was originally written by the prophet Muhammed only talks about treating others how you’d wish to be treated, not dissimilar the the Holy Bible). All the crap about Murdering “Kafirs” was added by the Sharia sect of Islam some 500 or so years later. Besides, the Bible also doesn’t say that you should kill those who believe differently but surprise-fucking-surprise the the entire pagan belief system was destroyed by Christianity. Innocent people, Children, all raped, tortured and burned alive for not converting to Christianity. My point is, that there isn’t a religion which actually condones murder but still people will use religion as an excuse to kill in the name of their “One True God”!

    • Digital_Utopia

      I’d just like to take the time to point out that before 9/11, the most devastating terrorist attack on U.S. soil, was performed by a white, male, American citizen.

      The point being – whether they’re refugees, garden variety immigrants (illegal or no), or U.S. citizens, each and every one of them is a “potential security threat”.

      In fact, there’s practically a 100% chance, that if someone is going to be killed or seriously injured, it will be due to the actions of a U.S. Citizen. Seriously, stop letting irrational fear dictate your beliefs.

  • Kary

    So tighter immigration laws would have saved the country from a company that uses patents and marketing strategies to overcharge consumers for product? 😉

    • Bob Wager

      that is why i dont buy apple anything. people pay premium on an innovation but poor quality products. they are cheaply made and resemble low-mid to mid range quality products offered at much lower pricing by other companies.

      • reasonableguy

        You are so right.
        When my Motorola Droid 2 Global reached the end of its contract it was worth $5.00.
        When my iPhone 5 reached the end of its contract it was worth $120.00
        Both prices via a site that buys used electronics.

        And of course PCWorld always ranks the Apple Laptops at the top because they don’t know as much as you do.

        • Arizona Ranger

          Just because a fool and their money are soon parted does mean the old apple phone is worth anything. You can take the apples you want, they are worthless electronic devices that are behind the times.

        • Bob Wager

          prices are based on demand in the third world countries they will be resold in. not the quality of manufacture. I build custom PC’s. I know that the apple uses mid-range CPU’s and GPU’s as compared to PC components of the same price with better quality and performance. Apples are fine for the low-tech, 1-button mindset. That doesn’t meat that they aren’t getting ripped off.

        • Bob Wager

          Oh yeah, when the iphone 6 came out it was at the same level of performance (not quality) of OTHER droid phones which were at the end of their life cycles (LG G3, HTC M8, for instance) A couple months later, the M9 came out and was way beyond the tech in an iphone 6. Then the G4. Keep deluding yourself. You won’t even know you are settling for less at a higher price. You’ve been sold.

    • YeyeGoThere

      Oh no! Someone is good at marketing! SHOCKING! And in a country where you praise the free market?! HORRIFIC!

      Joke aside; Steve Jobs was good at what Americans consider one of America’s core values.

      Patents are your everything. You create patents for literally everything; from the processes you use to create, to the actual items.

      Though, yes. It is certainly overcharging, but you can’t deny that they did one hell of a job down in marketing.

      • Nathan Sault

        Yes, he was a vile, uncharitable mysoginist who screwed over everybody who ever helped him, disavowed his pregnant girlfriend and his own children, sued everybody on earth, stole ideas and claimed them as his own, employed slaves in iPhone factories and told doctors to go to hell and ignored them when they told him they could cure his cancer. Do we need more of this?

      • Allen Hoffman

        Yes a good salesman, but he was still an asshole!

    • TrophySystem

      No, we would STILL have Electronic Arts and Microsoft, unfortunately.

  • Bill Hassay Jr

    These are not your fathers Syrians,

  • IsaakButler

    Except… States do not have the power to deny entry. It is a Constitutional amendment ratified in 1980 by a republican president stating that the PRESIDENT makes that decision. Yep, Good Old Ronny Reagan ratified that…. So Literally no state can deny entry of refugees. No matter how loud they scream.

    • Ken

      BTW, A President doesn’t make a Constitutional Amendment, the Congress and the people do that. But you are unfortunately correct about the 1980 document, I hope congress pulls federal funding for this hairbrained decision

  • Brewerofbeers

    Your updated map of cowardice.

  • Leo

    So, they point out 1 guy ? I guess we could point to Werner Von Braun as an example why we should have taken in NAZI “refugees” during WWII?

    • Brewerofbeers

      More accurately, why we should have taken in Jewish refugees prior to the war. FIFY.

      • Leo

        No, that is not “more accurately”. the jews didn’t have a radical group that wanted to kill all americans.

        • Brewerofbeers

          The Syrian refugees aren’t trying to “kill all Americans” either, but your cowardice is duly noted. That you lack the cognitive ability to see the parallels between the xenophobic and racist ideas of the 30s that the Jewish people would “destroy” America, and your current irrational fear and gutlessness is not surprising to me.

          • Leo

            Where did I say the syrian refugees want to kill all americans.? Using big words does not mask your obvious struggles with reading comprehension.No idea where you came up with cowardice in my statements……I volunteered & proudly served 6 years in the U.S. Army while you were probably on some college campus protesting meat loaf day in the cafeteria.

          • Brewerofbeers

            Sure you did honey. Sure you did. A coward like you would never lie while hiding behind a fake name on the internet. It is cute that you are lost and have no idea that we are discussing Syrian refugees.

          • Leo

            This is getting tedious…someone calling himself “brewerofbeers” talking about someone else about hiding behind fake names ? your misplaced arrogance cannot be backed up by your inferior intellect.I’m not wasting any more time with you. Hopefully you will grow up & find reality.God bless you & have a good life.

          • Brewerofbeers

            I’m not the one desperately trying to cover by making false claims of valor on the internet. Did your perv daddy really leave you too inbred to realize that, coward?

      • Martin Carr

        A few of the Jewish refugees worked for the US government, too. Ever hear of Oppenheimer, Bohr and Einstein?

    • Martin Carr

      Werner von Braun headed the German V1 and V2 projects that killed indiscriminately. He would have been prosecuted as a war criminal at Nuremberg but did a deal with the US – amnesty for everything he knew about rocket science at the time. Von Braun collected his papers and drove to meet the advancing US forces to surrender to them. The alternative would have been that the Russians (advancing from the opposite direction) would have taken the technology and deprived the US of what it considered to be a valuable asset. Von Braun developed his V2 rocket into what became known as the Apollo rocket. It seems that the US don’t mind cutting deals with mass murdering terrorists when it suits their purpose.

  • Ross Sizemore

    Better question more suited than “dur they’re not christian”, Why are we willing to take in 10’s of thousands of refugess but not take care of our own homeless? The people that are willing to accept refugee’s are nothing more than opportunists. They’ve had years to do something good for others but only choose to do so when there is publicity to be had.

    • Brewerofbeers

      No one is out helping the homeless? This is shocking, what with all of the non profits and government programs set up to do just that.

  • BW

    Anyone bother to ask the Native Americans how a huge influx of refugees worked out for them? I don’t know, I personally don’t trust Muslims anymore. Especially not to afford a wolf to enter in sheep’s clothing.

    • BW

      Anyone also bother to think where these jobs are going to come from when we already don’t have enough for our own citizens? Further, how can we give quarter to refugees when we clearly can’t even take care of our own people?

    • Ken

      Shhhh, you’re speaking LOGIC to the bleeding heart libs, You’re gonna make their heads explode.

    • billpo

      Really don’t know how this gravitated to be a slam on muslims or a christians vs muslims rant. That’s not the issue. The issue is ISIS using, as ONE of it’s infiltration tools, operatives-acting-as-refugees. How can anyone think this ISN’T plausible? Even if you don’t have an eye for history, all you have to have is an eye for the events of the last MONTH!

  • Bob

    What they aren’t telling you is that Steve’s Syrian father had nothing to do with raising his son. Steve’s biological mother was a Christian of German decent and his biological parents never married because her parents opposed his Muslim background. Shortly after giving birth to Steve, she quickly gave him up for adoption. Steve is quoted as referring to his birth parents as his “sperm and egg bank”
    Furthermore Jandali (Steve’s biological father) is quoted as saying “I’m really not his dad. Mr. & Mrs. Jobs are and I don’t want to take their place.”

    • It says most of that on page 2.

    • Martin Carr

      It doesn’t change the fact that Steve Jobs wouldn’t have been born – and the loss of everything he contributed – if his father had been refused entry to the US.

  • Mino Marrow

    remember oklahoma city bombing? white, christian, american male. the
    church shooting in s.c, and other churches, arsons of churches…
    christian, white american. the whole idea that only citizens are safe
    is bullshit. they have more to fear from our fear and hatred, than we
    do from them.
    plus, im pretty sure the native americans wouldnt
    agree with about white christians being safe, and incapable of harm,
    or terror. learn you history, or destined to repeat it, and also end up
    becoming everything you fear and hate: hitler, stalin, isis.

  • Crispin Gatieza

    I just knew some one was going to mention this as an example. Ridiculous. His mother was from Wisconsin, she put him up for adoption after it didn’t workout with his irresponsible Syrian father. His success has more to do with his adoptive parents than with his natural parents. Indeed, Jobs, as an adult, refused to personally meet with his natural Syrian father. Complete Ad Hominem argument for accepting refugees from Syria.

  • Brewerofbeers

    I’ll add you to list of cowardice and terrorist supporters. Thanks.

  • Brewerofbeers

    There is that irony and hypocrisy thing again. Cognitive dissonance is tough. Bless your heart. You’re just upset for being called out for not knowing what a red herring is.

  • Nathan Sault

    Yes, he was a vile, uncharitable mysoginist who screwed over everybody who ever helped him, disavowed his pregnant girlfriend and his own children, sued everybody on earth, stole ideas and claimed them as his own, employed slaves in iPhone factories and told doctors to go to hell and ignored them when they told him they could cure his cancer. What a terrible example to choose!

  • lorfalconswan

    I have no problem with VETTED immigrants. I do have a problem with immigrants who do NOT want to assimilate.

  • Caring&Cautious

    It’s amusing to watch people become bullies and accuse people that want more information to create a better screening process, cowards. I called that being level headed and responsible. It’s not heartless or racist to put your fellow American’s, who come in all races, religions, ages, and sexual orientation, first. That is patriotism if anything. When has wanting to protect your country become wrong? Yes I get this country was founded by immigrants fleeing from tyranny. I don’t see what is wrong with wanting more strict measures put in place. As far as my thoughts on the story, Steve Jobs was an jerk. I actually just finished studying him and analyzing his leadership methods. He was arrogant. Terrible person to pick for the Syrian poster child especially since he was adopted.

  • If you cast your net wide enough, you’ll eventually find some treasure with your trash.

    Unfortunately, we can’t take care of those that are here already and in need of assistance. When we can feed and clothe those that have already provided something to this country (instead of those waiting for their handout) we can once again provide aid.

    But until then…

    • Brewerofbeers

      You’re right. If only there were some, any, private and public organizations solely dedicated to helping those in need in America… oh, wait… There are and it isn’t the Democrats that keep trying to cut funding to them. Your faux concern and dishonesty is duly noted.

      • What is your solution?

        • Brewerofbeers

          I know, maybe we can round up all of the homeless in America and place them in camps where they can concentrate on not being needy anymore… We need to improve our mental healthcare system, ensure affordable housing, create more education and training etc, but ultimately you can’t help those that don’t want it.

          It is beyond dishonest to claim that helping people is a zero sum game. It is not. Furthermore, when the very people responsible for, or who support cutting the programs designed specifically to help the needy in America, start trying to use the existence of those people as an excuse to not do more – should be beaten with a stick for being shills like you.

          It is an absurd logical fallacy to claim that because we perhaps failed to help Person A that we should not attempt to help Person B. It is weak red herring, intended to distract those with impotent reasoning skills. It completely ignores Option C of doing more to help all of these people.

          • Thanks for the input but why the personal attack in each of your posts? No need for that.

          • Brewerofbeers

            Aww. Did your fee fees get hurt? Grow up.

          • Nope, but its a shame that you are so impolite on a public forum.

          • Brewerofbeers

            Welcome to the internet. If you are going to be disingenuous and troll with ridiculous logical fallacies, expect to be shut down for it.

          • Well, I like to interact with people that I never would meet face to face. I don’t insult people so I am always taken aback with others who enjoy doing so. Sorry to have invaded your space.

  • Brewerofbeers

    Lolz. Bless your heart. You are dense, aren’t you? Congratulations on letting the terrorists beat you by wetting your pants and cowering at the mere mention of them. Poor little thing.

  • dissidentpatriot

    Funny how none of the ‘just let them in’ crowd today had an issue when the Obama administration halted the refugee program for Iraqis for six months in 2009 after connecting a single ‘refugee’ that had already been admitted to the US to an IED attack in Iraq.

  • Jake

    You people really have no idea! The point of the article is not whether Jobs was an asshole, whether Apple make good phones, or the contribution Jobs’ father made to his som’s upbringing. It’s that the son of an immigrant from Syria made a huge contribution to the US economy (and how the world connects and uses technology) in the form of one of the world’s largest and most successful companies. Who are we to deny the potential contribution that will be made by a Syrian Muslim (or a Syrian Christian, or a Zambian Goat herder) that immigrates here now, or in the future?? Unless you are a Native American, we are all immigrants or descendents of immigrants who have contributed to this country in one way or another. So quit whingeing about crap and get busy making your own positive contribution!!

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